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eirias ([personal profile] eirias) wrote2006-12-17 09:10 am

pet peeve and its reflection

I was about to bitch about how students seem to be entirely clueless about spacing when it comes to hyphens, dashes, equal signs, etc. Then I found myself on a usage page which -- and here I illustrate -- tells me that my own usage of em-dashes is wrong; apparently you're not supposed to put spaces around an em-dash. Huh. Well, I still think my students' mistakes (poorly- spaced like this) have a worse effect on legibility than mine do, and in fact think the usage rule I'm violating is dumb. So there, usage guys!
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[personal profile] cos 2006-12-18 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
.. and to be perfectly picky, ASCII doesn't have real em-dashes anyway. What's the usage rule about putting spaces around pairs of en-dashes? :)

[identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com 2006-12-18 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
*G* Good question. No idea :)

[identity profile] eldan.livejournal.com 2006-12-18 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
However, HTML does. ampersand#8121semicolon (replace the words with symbols - LJ is not permitting me to do this properly) gets magically transformed into —
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[personal profile] cos 2006-12-18 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that, but it didn't seem relevant - I don't think she or her students are writing their papers for school in HTML, any more than they're typesetting them. (And even here on LJ where she could use HTML, plain ASCII is so much easier that everyone still does the double-dash thing :)

[identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com 2006-12-18 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but they aren't really writing their papers in plain ASCII either ;) -- Word automatically turns /--/ into /Ᾱ/. Er, that was supposed to be an em-dash, but for some reason [livejournal.com profile] eldan's HTML code doesn't work for me...

[identity profile] gieves.livejournal.com 2006-12-18 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
(not that it's relevant to the original useage point, of course, but...)

— can be achieved by using — (or —)
& can be achieved by using & (or &)

HTML code fun!

[identity profile] eldan.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
oops—it should have been 8212 not 8121