I think we're still slightly at cross-purposes here, perhaps because I've deviated a bit from the original post topic. I'm not trying to argue that I should be able to force you (or anyone, rather) into some kind of "unreserved acceptance" of every possible value set. (Indeed, that would be contrary to my premise.) I'm just saying there's no need to suppress someone's value set when its not infringing on the basic rights of others.
For example, as ukelele succinctly pointed out, which it is impossible to (consistently) be both Gay and Born Again, it is quite possible for a gay individual and a born again individual to live next door to each other, so long as they refrain from thwoing rocks over the fence. And I can be "tolerant" of both of them, simply by not attacking them as long as they're not attacking each other.
I guess it depends what is meant by "acceptance". All I want is to leave people alone unless they present imminent danger to those around them. Of course, as we all agree, there are many gray areas in defining that criterion.
Or to come at it from yet another angle, the only Born Again Christians I'm not willing to be tolerant of are the ones who bomb abortion clinics, or advocate such, or do other things that I consider to be actively harmful to others. If somebody wants to despise gays without harming them, I will disagree with them, but I'm not going to harass them about it.
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Date: 2005-12-01 05:24 am (UTC)For example, as ukelele succinctly pointed out, which it is impossible to (consistently) be both Gay and Born Again, it is quite possible for a gay individual and a born again individual to live next door to each other, so long as they refrain from thwoing rocks over the fence. And I can be "tolerant" of both of them, simply by not attacking them as long as they're not attacking each other.
I guess it depends what is meant by "acceptance". All I want is to leave people alone unless they present imminent danger to those around them. Of course, as we all agree, there are many gray areas in defining that criterion.
Or to come at it from yet another angle, the only Born Again Christians I'm not willing to be tolerant of are the ones who bomb abortion clinics, or advocate such, or do other things that I consider to be actively harmful to others. If somebody wants to despise gays without harming them, I will disagree with them, but I'm not going to harass them about it.