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Oct. 5th, 2005 10:23 am
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Indiana proposes bill requiring would-be assisted-fertility recipients to have parental qualifications approved by the state

Surprise, surprise! The criteria by which applicants are evaluated are to include marriage to a member of the opposite sex and participation in religious services.

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Date: 2005-10-05 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darlox.livejournal.com
I, too, am surprised that any legislator had the nuts to put this before the legislature.

However, the spotlight in the article on religion is a bit disingenuous, and certainly designed to garner the reaction that it seems to have. Every adoption agency also does a "family lifestyle" evaluation prior to adoptions, and there are plenty of athiests, mixed-religion and non-churchgoing families with adopted children... I can name you one, personally. By that bar, this is not unusual. The article makes it sound like "if you don't participate in faith-based activities, you don't get fertility treatment," and that is clearly not the case. Google News for other articles on this.

I definitely agree that this is really bad news, and a harbinger of horrid things to come. On the other hand, I do harbor a personal belief that ALL parents should have some basic qualifications before being allowed to become pregnant by ANY means. Of course, trusting the State to arbitrate that would be worse than not doing it at all, so it's probably DOA. But, we'd certainly have many fewer social problems in America, and the world, if it wasn't quite so easy for people to crank out offspring by the dozens, largely consequence-free...

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com
It's not even a matter of trusting the state to do it (clearly a bad idea). It's a matter of technology. We simply don't have the technology to prevent people from becoming pregnant with 100% efficacy (and, if you do, why are you not making a billion gazillion dollars yet?!?)/

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rms10.livejournal.com
On the other hand, I do harbor a personal belief that ALL parents should have some basic qualifications before being allowed to become pregnant by ANY means.

Abortions for all who don't meet your parenting standards? Awesome!

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Date: 2005-10-05 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekat03.livejournal.com
*grin*

i don't see that happening, though... damned ethics ;)

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Date: 2005-10-06 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com
However, the spotlight in the article on religion is a bit disingenuous, and certainly designed to garner the reaction that it seems to have. Every adoption agency also does a "family lifestyle" evaluation prior to adoptions, and there are plenty of athiests, mixed-religion and non-churchgoing families with adopted children... I can name you one, personally.

The fact that religion is not a diagnostic criterion is not important. The fact that it is comparable to a criterion already in place in a "similar" situation is also not important. My point is that religion should not be relevant to either of these decisions and should not be on the list of criteria at all. Your stating otherwise is rather like if I screened prospective parents for political orientation, claiming that it's a bellwether of ethics and we want to make sure our children go to ethical homes, and then came back with two token cases of Republicans who miraculously got through to prove that I was unbiased. There's no reason to have the question at all if you aren't biased.

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